Chip MacGregor is a hero in my book…a well-respected literary agent who has refused to be intimidated by the thugs at WinePress. This is his most recent post…be sure to read the comments as well!
I just found out the reason the WinePress landlord changed the locks on the building.
He was going to let them stay and continue on in business, as long as Tim Williams signed a document taking responsibility for the business.
And guess what?
He wouldn’t sign it.
So while WinePress employees tell authors that the reason WinePress is closing it’s doors is because of attacks on the business, or landlords who wanted their money, once again, they are lying.
The truth is, they could have carried on if Tim would have signed the document. The landlord was willing to start from a clean slate as long as Tim would guarantee using his personal assets.
But he refused to do so.
Funny how his name isn’t on any legal documents. He has never been a guarantor on any WinePress or Sound Doctrine bank loans (oh, but many of the other church members and employees were, including me!), and his name has never been on the incorporation papers. I doubt his name was even on the rental agreements after the company was transferred over…it was probably Josiah and Malcolm who put their names on the line. He was a master at having other people do his bidding and others put their assets and credit on the line.
Incredible how he took in a quarter of a million dollars a year from WinePress from 2005 until I left late 2011, but still spent Sound Doctrine money to make improvements on his cabin in the mountains, and spent WinePress money on all sorts of personal purchases.
It’s very telling that the ONLY reason that WinePress was shut down is because Tim Williams refused to sign his name to take responsibility for the cash cow that has paid him well over the years.
Yep, very telling.
I heard from an author that WinePress is finally admitting that they are, in fact, going out of business. The cult member/employee said “it was the result of attacks on the business and the landlord’s desire to get paid, which he wasn’t.”
Hmmmmm. Their landlord let them go ONE FULL YEAR without paying their rent, and finally said enough is enough. Start paying or get out, to which they whined and made more excuses.
One of the most recent employees to leave said “The last thing I heard from Josiah was that Mike was jerking them around.”
Here is a perfect example of the Sound Doctrine / Tim Williams /WinePress double standard.
Their landlord gives them way more grace than they deserve, and they accuse the landlord of jerking them around.
If you are more than 15 days late on a bill you owe WinePress, they charge you exorbitant late fees.
But if they owe you money, they expect you to wait for months, and if you complain, YOU are in sin.
Tim Williams convinces his followers that I constantly beat Carla down when we went to writer’s conferences together.
The truth is, when we had a chance to talk without Tim around, and I showed her how we were wrong to charge so much for authors to buy copies of their books, and that some of the decisions Tim was making were BAD FOR BUSINESS, she completely agreed with me and tried to get Tim to listen. Uh oh. Bad idea. He doesn’t listen to anyone.
In reality, Tim was the one who constantly beat her down once we returned from the conferences. Verbally beat her into submission. She even told me once that because of our conversations at conferences we attended together, they nearly divorced more than once!
And here’s the last example I’ll share for the moment. A deaf woman who almost got sucked into the cult many years ago makes comments on this site and forwarded me an email she just received from the man himself.
Greetings Colleen Simsa,
You do understand that spreading lies is a sin and places you under God’s judgment – unless you repent?
Like Jesus, the book is very clear that all is a matter of love. It can’t be helped that you only want to love with human sinful love, rather than the selfless love of Jesus in you. However, it is stupid to attack those who love by the power of the Holy Spirit.
We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. (1 John 4:6)
That you have aligned yourself with a self-confessed manipulator proves you need to do some serious repenting.
For someone who spreads more lies than anyone I’ve ever known, both on the internet and in his scripture-out-of-context preaching, I find it almost laughable that he thinks he can continue to get away with his intimidation tactics. I must admit I laughed out loud when I read it, as did Colleen.
The last line, however, was the most telling…the master manipulator himself refers to me as a self-confessed manipulator.
Yep. I wrote all about it in my first book Consumed by Success. I admitted it and actually REPENTED for it.
Something he has yet to do.
I was asked by the attorney for the landlord to take these posts down because they were getting harassed by Tim Williams…the last thing I want do to someone who is trying to deal with the leadership of WP in a civilized fashion is make things difficult for them.
Well, now that their landlord finally kicked them out of the office building, I think it’s safe to say that the world should know the truth about why they aren’t answering their phones today. Of course, anything bad that happens to WinePress is blamed on me, or on the employees who won’t “repent” to Tim Williams’ liking.
But the truth is, just as I’ve been saying all along, the Williams family will pay themselves, their lawyers, the church building rent, and whatever bills they deem to their advantage, but will not pay their rent, their printer bills, their editor bills, their employee salaries or their author royalties! Here is the letter I received in early September showing them owing $150,000+ in back rent, and this doesn’t even count what they owe on the warehouse!
Amazing that this letter came in the DAY AFTER Tim Williams told the reporter for Publisher’s Weekly that WinePress was doing great.
And what does that prove? Just what I have been saying all along. The people in charge of WinePress are liars, and they use scripture to justify lying (hey, Abraham lied about Sarah, right?!). They lied on the witness stand, and they continue to lie even now. The truth is, they have only been living on the good reputation WinePress had when I still had some control of the company.
I’m sorry so many authors didn’t believe the bizarre story I’ve told here could possibly be true, but it was then and it is now, even moreso. Especially since 2 key employees just left WinePress and Sound Doctrine a few weeks ago. The stories they will tell will only confirm everything I’ve been saying for two years.
If you are one of those authors who paid for a special deal on books in December and never got them, that’s because they owe the printer $50,000 and have not paid it down far enough so the printer won’t print any more books. Did they know that when they ran the special? You bet they did. And who got your money? Hmmmm….I will let you speculate on that one. If I were you, and if you paid by credit card, I would immediately do a charge back since you did not receive your product. And even if WP made you sign an agreement that disallows you any option to do a charge back, that’s ridiculous. If you paid for a service or product and didn’t get it, your credit card company is there to protect you!
I heard today from my friend at the Courier Herald that he reported the latest on the Sound Doctrine and WinePress scandal last week: Sound Doctrine pastor Malcolm Fraser files appeal of child rape and molestation conviction.
I find it disturbing that “Pastor” Fraser is claiming indigent status and trying to get a state appointed lawyer to appeal his conviction…Williams has always been the master of making it look like people make hardly any money so someone else will have to foot the bill…whether it’s trying to keep divorced wives from receiving their due by setting an employee’s wage at the absolute minimum, to appealing to the State of Washington to get them to waste their resources on this ridiculous appeal…it’s all the same strategy…get everyone else to spend their dollars so he doesn’t have to put HIS money where his mouth is.
To learn from the most recent former employees/cult members that so many workers have gone without pay (ummmm…that’s illegal!), landlords have continued to be strung along with promises to pay which never materialize, and estate sales have disallowed “church” members from purchasing any of the Williams Buckley estate until the very last day of the sale. It just makes me nauseous to see the hideous and greed-laden control Williams continues to have over his followers.
I was even told by someone who attended the funeral for Carla that Tim Williams spent the service declaring his sacrifice of laying down his life for his wife for two years while she was sick…without a word to memorialize her as a person. So sick. So blatantly trying to keep his minions in tact so he can continue to be supported by his blind loyal followers.
Lord, please cause the scales blinding the eyes of those still following this madman to be removed…so the Truth can set them free! In Jesus’ Name!
A friend who has researched the 35 year “ministry” of Tim Williams sent me this article about 18 months ago, and asked me if Tim did any of these control tactics…I was absolutely dumbfounded at how every single tactic was used.
I hope some of those still deceived by this man will begin to connect the dots and have the courage to admit the truth…that they’ve been manipulated and controlled by a man who, not only has a fascination with Hitler, but also uses Hitler tactics to further his agenda.
Below is the article with the comments I made back to her at the time…this was such a healing process for me to recognize what I’d endured and how I’d been under such powerful mind control!
Hitler and mind control
Do you see this picture of children so strongly cheering their leader, Adolph Hitler? How did Hitler control these young people? Could this happen again today? If we learn how Hitler was able to control his youth, then we can help to prevent a repeat of such Nazi-style mind-control brainwashing in the future.
Germany, of course, rose from the ashes of World War I, (“The War to End All Wars”), as both a democracy and a country that was heavily in debt. Inflation was rampant. Social problems were also rampant. Hitler promised to fix his Germany and restore the “respect” that many Germans thought was so unjustly taken from them by the Armistice marking the end of World War I.
Hitler also wanted to build a “master race”. The children of Germany were viewed by Hitler as his future hope for such a success. Children were also more naturally teachable and would therefore be more easily molded by Hitler than older adults. Many of these adults also remembered living under democracy, and therefore might not be so easily fooled by Hitler’s lies against democracy. Children could also be a future asset in his war efforts, since Germany was still a small country going up against the combined military forces of most of the world. These children could become his future soldiers and leaders of his “Third Reich”, an empire which was to last for a thousand years.
How Did Hitler Control The Children?
(1) Hitler used his image as a father figure
In the traditional German home, the father was the one in control. The rest of the family was expected to always obey the father — to obey their father “without question”. By projecting such a “father” image before the children of Germany, Hitler was able to transfer power from the institution of the home to his own social and political institutions. Hitler also persuaded “his” children into thinking that, since Hitler was their “father”, this also meant that he also cared about them, and about their future. Of course, Hitler actually only cared about one man — himself. Hitler’s Youth were just his “pawns” in his great political and military scheme to take over the world.
Tim started early on having us call he and Carla “Mom and Dad” since they were our “spiritual parents”. They also told moms and dads in the body that they didn’t know how to be a godlly parent, so they moved into many of those relationships and took over. One friend told me Carla told her “I have a better relationship with your son than you do!” And they told me I didn’t know how to be a grandma (I agreed that I didn’t know much about parenting because I was always busy working instead of being a mom) so Tim and Carla took over my grandparenting with Anna and Ezekiel (although it started out only “sharing” my grandkids with her since the only ones she had at the time were Shelby’s). When I didn’t repent well enough, Tim told all the kids I had a grandma relationship with in the church not to call me Grandmama anymore, including my own grandkids.
Tim also expects obedience without question…completely. He uses scriptures about being in unity to back himself up, but there is absolutely no allowance for questioning or disagreeing on ANYTHING. Many obedience scriptures are used to encourage blind obedience…like God gives the Holy Spirit to those who obey Him (I think that one is in Acts).
(2) Hitler extinguished dissent
Children were only allowed to hear one view of Hitler – the positive view. This was especially true after 1933, when Hitler became the undisputed leader of Germany. After 1933, Hitler was able to silence all public opposition against him and thereby gain even more influence, (including more influence over the children). Anyone who disagreed with any of Hitler’s ideas was immediately considered to be “suspect” and might therefore get a knock on the door late at night and be “shown the door” to his or her own house, (or even worse, I might add).
This is EXACTLY what Tim has done with the no gossip policy. COMPLETELY. If you question or doubt you are called a Judas or Saul. He uses scriptures like “take the plank out of your own eye” and Proverbs 19:3 A person’s own folly leads to their ruin, yet their heart rages against the LORD. Any time you get an attitude at something Tim does that is hypocrisy or just plain abuse, you are told you are just raging against the Lord. I understand people over the years have been disfellowshipped, (I’ve seen it happen a few times) put outside the camp for a period of time, or other discipline for having a “bitter root”.
One thing I noticed right before I left the church was a post Tim put on the church message board, essentially saying that if our heart is not pure, and we are still liars because we have not repented or denied ourselves, that no matter what is said, even if technically true, it’s a lie because our hearts are bad. In other words, he set himself up to keep people from hearing about the things he was doing…he must have sensed it was coming soon.
(3) Hitler used an organized program to keep his kids occupied
Hitler used his now famous “Hitler Youth” program as a kind of “Boy Scouts” for the training of children to obediently follow him, and to prepare them to become his future soldiers. He learned that “youth’s loneliness” could be used as a powerful tool to influence (and then gain control) over these young, impressionable kids. Hitler therefore tried to keep these children busy, keeping them organized so that they would not be “lonely”. (By the way, the current Pope of Rome, Joseph Ratzinger, was also kept busy as a boy as a part of this same “Hitler Youth”.)
Kids and adults alike are allowed very little free time. Must have a schedule and do many chores, serving others, etc., to stay busy. Only rarely do you have down time, usually only on Sundays where you can’t really do anything because you’re supposed to give God everything on the Sabbath and “not do what you please” on that day. They don’t want you to have time to think as then you might start questioning.
(4) Hitler made certain that children were kept as ignorant as possible
Generally, the more ignorant children are, (or adults for that matter), the less apt they are to question the validity of their leader’s claims of authority. Therefore, Hitler made sure that these children did not learn any information that was not “needed” by them. These kids were also instructed never to “think for themselves”. No, such thinking for one’s self was considered to be very “dangerous thinking” and therefore “suspect”.
Such children were also not to read any books or listen to any radio programs that might “confuse them”, (i.e. anything other than Hitler’s propaganda programs.) Nevertheless, Hitler made sure that these children always had the “proper information” that they needed, (i.e. as little as possible, in order to always keep his children as ignorant as possible.)
Information control is rampant. Books and movies are reviewed before the kids are allowed to watch, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but then the same things are done with the adults…we were encouraged early on not to read books by other current day authors, but only books by dead people, old saints, who preached a similar message to Tim.
They intercepted letters from family, phone calls and emails from family, so that we would not be “defiled” by things they might say to us. My son sent me letters for 10 years and I never saw any of them after the first year or two…
(5) Hitler gathered the children into frequent rallies
Large groups of children congregating together in youth rallies can have a strong peer pressure effect in strengthening the grip of an authority figure. This is especially true when loud music and many standing ovations are made a central part of this control effort, (as in the picture above). In such rallies there would be strong peer pressure for children to conform to the “Hitler worship” which their peers exhibited. Winston Churchill once passed through one such Hitler rally while visiting Germany. Churchill was both shocked and quite dismayed by what he saw in this rally filled with loud music, and many standing-ovations.
N/A – it never got big enough for him to do this…although we did have an annual retreat over thanksgiving that was always very much centered around Tim and Carla being held up as great spiritual people, and any other events put on over the years (double wedding, WinePress events, etc) always pointed back to Tim and Carla being so godly.
(6) Hitler used uniforms
By enforcing a dress code, (as can clearly be seen in the uniform shirts and ties of those in the above photograph), Hitler’s youth were taught to act and think the same, namely to “believe without thinking”. They were taught to have “blind faith” in whatever Hitler told them to believe. The mandating of the wearing of ties and other such dress codes was therefore used to help reinforce such “uniform thinking” among his youth.
Certain guidelines were set down early on to dress in modest biblical ways, definitely taught us to have blind faith allowing them to become our Holy Spirit. We were encouraged to be set apart and come out from the world, and not to look worldly. Pretty soon everyone looks the same, cookie cutter.
(7) Hitler used the Jews as a focus of blame
Children are often simplistic. Hitler was able to use this simplicity in his blaming of the Jews for many of Germany’s social problems. Jewish families were often “shown the door” in his society, (or worse still, shot or herded into “camps” like Auschwitz). Jews and their families were made to take the blame for any problems that Germany faced, and therefore they suffered under great persecutions by Hitler. These frequent public persecutions of “troublemakers”, therefore helped Hitler to control his youth. (In the book “1984″, children were given certain people to blame for their problems, often Jewish people, so that they would not rightly blame “Big Brother” for those same problems.)
With Sound Doctrine, the church in America was to blame at first, then it was the people in Sound Doctrine who don’t repent who are to blame. The public humiliation was first about all other churches in sermons, and then it transferred into public humiliation of church members….Tim’s anger and rage just has to have someone to blame…he will never take the blame for anything himself.
(8) Hitler believed that having too much money was a real problem for children
Hitler thought that money was a problem for children for many reasons. One of these reasons was that children might buy things with money that might get them into “trouble”. For example, such money might be used to purchase foreign books or other items which might tend to erode Hitler’s base of authority in his country. Hitler also wanted as much money as possible to support his war efforts to destroy Churchill, (and anyone else Hitler disagreed with) — as he sought world domination.
Therefore, for these and other reasons, Hitler made sure that his children were kept as impoverished and disadvantaged as practically possible. Such poverty also helped to keep such children more dependent on him, more docile, and more pliable as well.
Exactly….all of us were programmed to give everything and rarely buy things for ourselves, otherwise we were greedy. A huge double standard since the Williams family lived high on the hog and everyone else was always scraping by, which was God’s discipline on them because they weren’t repenting well enough. They also made a point to pay those who were divorced the absolute minimum they could get away with so that their ex-spouses would get the absolute least amount possible, or if the ex was the father, then he would have to pay the most in child support, which means more for the member to give to the church. Also, whenever someone was coming into money, inheritance or tax return, they would have to show exactly how they would spend the money, and if most of it didn’t go to the church they were in big trouble. Sick use of authority in regards to money.
(9) Hitler used a propaganda program
Hitler built up a effective propaganda program in order to make sure that Hitler’s (and only Hitler’s) ideas were advanced. Through the effective use of organized propagandizing and lying efforts, a false view of Hitler and his war efforts was always doled out to his kids. What “really went on”, (such as Hitler’s constant lies and deceptions and Hitler’s persecution of Jewish families or anyone else who might have dared to disagree with Hitler about anything), was always kept carefully hidden from view.
The false image of smiling and happy Germans dutifully following and cheering their leader, helped to fool many gullible “visitors” to Hitler’s rallies. (This did not fool Churchill, however.) Through the use of such deceit, Hitler’s propaganda efforts were quite effective in enabling him to “spin” the truth into a lie. (Hitler was a very effective and proficient “spin doctor”.)
Early on there were tracts and sermons given away freely, then Even the Demons Believe became the main thing to give away to show people what the “real gospel” is about. Tim was made out to be a generous, spiritual giant (of course the children were never allowed to see his rage and anger at others so he kept his front up very well around the children….he gave them candy, bought them things, spoiled them so the kids would love him and not question him).
Whenever people would visit the church everyone would put on this happy face and seem all joyful, when in reality they were always in trouble and getting rebuked. It just seemed so phony to me whenever outsiders would visit WinePress or potential members would come to church. Just look at the message board picture of Tim smiling….but then read some of his ragaholic posts….sick!
(10) Hitler installed “spies” within these ranks of children
Hitler’s children were taught to distrust each other and to only trust Hitler. Any person deemed “suspect” was to be immediately reported to Hitler or one of his assistants by letter, phone call, or through other means, so that such “rebels” could be effectively “dealt with”. (This was another theme of the “1984″ book as well.)
No one was to ever actually trust anyone other than Hitler. A child would therefore turn in his or her best friend to be “disciplined”, if such a friend was at all suspected of committing the “thought crime” of disagreeing with any of Hitler’s personal opinions or ideas.
This was true with adults and children….even sometimes they had children ratting on the adults! Things would always get back to Tim and Carla and mole hills would be made into mountains because there were always people spying and repeating what was said or done. It would get to the point where you couldn’t voice any disagreement because you knew you would be ratted on. So you are left with the thoughts inside your head, or you start to believe you are wrong for having the thoughts and then confess them as sin.
(11) Hitler wrote books and other propaganda materials to promote his views
The book “Mein Kampf” was one of Hitler’s most famous works. Through use of this and other books and writings of his, Hitler was able to present his views to the children under his authority. Such children were expected to read these books, and therefore to absorb his lies into their young and impressionable minds. Such writings therefore greatly helped Hitler in his goal of brainwashing and controlling these children.
Uh, yeah!! He’s written 12 books that promote his agenda, the most misused is Gossip and the Gospel. Tim and his family just finished writing a children’s book so now they can start them early.
There were many other methods Hitler used to effectively gain and hold control over his youth. Hitler always liked the ideas of political control and mind control. (Hitler was what we now call a “control freak”).
Tim is a total control freak….to the point of micro controlling everything in a person’s life!
Hitler took away those kids’ rights, so that he could gain yet more power, control, and money in his quest for world domination. Nevertheless, despite his many lies, deceptions, and claims to the contrary, Hitler was really only concerned about Hitler.
This was evident when Tim put up with editors being paid late, landlords being paid late, vendors being paid late, and even employees being paid late, but once when we were ONE day late on his pay he absolutely went into a tirade on the message board. He truly only cares about himself, even though his wife and kids promote him as a generous godly man. It is all a lie.
If millions of children never grew up and got married, always lived lives of poverty, or died in obscurity, serving Hitler week after week on the battlefield, that was all fine, as long as Hitler himself benefited personally from such deprivations suffered by these youths. Such is the great evil that can come from one deranged man lacking self control, love for others, and the fear of either God or man.
This sounds just like Tim though he portrays himself to be godly and loving God with everything. Sick and twisted.
Many of the personal characteristics and methods of Adolph Hitler will probably one day be also shared by the coming Antichrist. Hitler tried and failed to become the Antichrist. Soon, this “Beast” with the number “666″ will succeed where Hitler once tried but ultimately failed. (Many think that the Antichrist’s “666″ number will mean that his first, middle, and last name will each have six letters to them.) The day of the unveiling of the Antichrist and his Great Whore is coming very soon. Will you ready for the next “Hitler”?
(this article can be found at http://www.knowthelies.com/node/3944)
What do I want for Christmas this year?
I want Jesus to proclaim freedom to the prisoners, recovery of sight for the blind…I want Jesus to set the oppressed free.
“The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free,
My former daughter in law Tia Dean (who changed her name to Abigail Davidson after she divorced my son) and my grandkids, Ezekiel and Anna, are prisoners of the evil one, who is at work through Tim Williams and his cult “Sound Doctrine”…these three dear ones are blinded by the lies of satan, and oppressed by legalism and manipulated by extreme spiritual abuse.
This is the way I remember them…my last picture of them.
Oh that they would have the courage to finally admit they’ve spent the last 14 years believing a lie, and walk…no run…away from the control and manipulation they are under.
There are many other captives that need to do the same, but this little trio is the one I’m most longing to finally see set free.
Will you pray with me to this end?
I attended a Domestic Violence Awareness workshop a few evenings ago and was stunned by what I learned.
I was still processing the emotions surrounding the passing of Carla Williams, a woman whom I once called a friend, but now I was labeled her enemy (and the cause for her brain tumor) because I was willing to stand up to her husband and expose his tyranny.
Tyranny: arbitrary or unrestrained exercise of power; despotic abuse of authority. Synonyms: despotism, absolutism, dictatorship.
But here is one of the main things that really stood out to me.
Domestic violence doesn’t start with a gun to the head. It starts with:
- Put downs
- Name calling
Reeling through my mind were the many times Tim Williams would shame me (and others) with scripture, and yes, it really did escalate to name calling. I even have copies of the posts where he would name call and heap shame upon many of us. I don’t have to worry that my memory blanked out those painful moments…I have the proof to remind me of what I endured.
It’s amazing to me, now that I’m on the other side, that I put up with the verbal abuse he heaped on me, and I’m sure continues to heap on the other loyal followers…but it’s just another way he would take scripture out of context and use it to justify his shameful and abusive behavior…after all, “no discipline seems pleasant at the time” is a great line to keep someone trapped in bondage, and shame them into silent submission.
The control and isolation were two other components that kept me captive, but at the time, of course, I didn’t see it. The “us vs. them” mentality of the group fed the acceptance of such control and isolation… we were convinced it was for our own good. Now that the scales have been removed from my eyes, it’s clear as day.
So, to those who still believe in the lie, I am praying for you. That someday you will have the courage to see what is right in front of your face, come out of denial, and allow God to rescue you out of the pit you are in. He has been raising red flags for years, but you have been conditioned to turn those red flags around onto yourself and declare yourself “in sin” for questioning.
Today marks 22 months that I have been delivered from deception.
Just yesterday I received the demand letter I showed in the last post…so timely that it arrived only hours after the Lord had me reading Psalm 25.
This verse jumped out at me, unbeknownst to me that God was, at that very moment, continuing to prove Himself to be a God of justice!
No one who trusts in You will ever be disgraced, but disgrace comes to those who try to deceive others. Psalm 25:3
To watch, from a distance, God’s judgment on this group is a sobering thing, to say the least.
- One pastor/leader in prison for child rape,
- Founding pastor’s wife soon to die from a brain tumor*,
- Lies being exposed for all to see.
And while they blame me for all their woes, the word is clear, that those who try to deceive others will be disgraced.
*I do not believe Carla’s brain tumor is judgment on her, rather it is judgment on her husband, who has, for 35 years, used others to do his bidding. Carla and Malcolm have been his primary puppets (along with his 2 sons), and it is obvious that God is taking away all his props. He will stand before God for the destruction he has caused to so many.
My prayers continue to reach the Throne of Grace for those whose lives have been ravished by these abusive leaders…one woman who used to be my roommate, was listed on the demand letter, showing she now lives back in Northern California. Praise God she escaped, but I can just imagine the shape she is in. After selling everything she owned (over half a million dollars in property) and “laying it at the apostle’s feet” (of course, manipulated completely by Tim Williams to give everything without holding anything back…after all, if she did, she’d end up struck dead like Sapphira in the book of Acts), I’m sure her condition is devastating. I watched her become the brunt of so much abuse by the wolf in sheep’s clothing, I can only pray that she will come to realize that God was grossly misrepresented by Tim Williams, and that she will allow God to gently restore her and surround her with safe people.
This particular statement was made on the witness stand by Josiah Williams the youngest son of Tim and Carla Williams and the Executive Director at WinePress. You can see the entire article here in the Courier Herald.
After she sold the business in April 2010, shortly after, she put in her resignation from WinePress and Sound Doctrine Church,” Williams said.
He testified there were several disputes concerning the sale of the business and taxes owed on the business.
Williams said the business was sold to Sound Doctrine for $10 with more than $300,000 owing in taxes.
He said there was also a dispute over who would pay sales taxes owed on capital gains for about $86,000.
I’d like to add some facts to these statements to show the kind of mind control and intimidation Tim Williams uses even on his own family. These statements are completely false and were obviously spoon fed to Josiah, to keep him as a loyal and committed follower.
1) I turned in my resignation on November 10, 2011 – I would not consider 20 months to be “shortly after” the business was sold. – EXAGERATION
2) When the business was transferred to Sound Doctrine for $10 there were approximately $350,000 in liabilities…none of them taxes. These were monies due printers, editors, vendors, authors, and other various organizations, none of them governmental. – LIE
- For the five years leading up to the transfer of the business, I personally had no say in how the money was spent at WinePress, all those decisions were made by either Tim & Carla Williams, Malcolm Fraser, Joshua or Josiah Williams.
- When I approached management (Tim and Malcolm) in writing about the fact that income was down but spending was still high, including first class plane tickets for Tim and Carla, huge salaries to the Williams family totaling half a million dollars a year, and other frivolous spending, I was rebuked, disciplined and called a witch, and instructed to shred all my journals and anything else where I might have written down any incriminating evidence.
3) There was never a dispute about who would pay the sales tax on the transfer of assets. Even though it was clearly the church’s responsibility to pay it, I was convinced that it was my responsibility to pay. I wrote a letter to Malcolm stating that the State of Washington required payment within 2 weeks or they would go after WinePress for the $15,000. I asked, “Is there anyone in the church could co-sign a loan for me so I can get this paid?” To which I received a letter from the Sound Doctrine/WinePress attorney threatening “further action” if I did not take care of this responsibility immediately.
It was then I realized I’d been deceived for 12 years and turned in my resignation.
For the last 20+ months I have been painted as a disgruntled former employee. Someone who had made a shambles of WinePress and had to be “rescued” by Tim Williams. One statement was made along the lines of “before I (Tim) got involved in running WinePress, the company charged $20,000 for a book with no distribution or publicity, but now we offer a better product with great distribution and promotion for a fraction of the cost.”
1) Tim Williams book was published in 1998, 5,000 copies for about $20,000. Not only was his book distributed by all the major distributors, it was taken to the Christian Booksellers Convention and was promoted heavily by our publicity department.
2) In 1998 there was no such thing as print on demand, so the idea of publishing 10 or 20 copies of a book for a “fraction of the cost” of an offset print run was not even a possibility.
3) I still have copies of a letter from the host of “Save America” Chuck Crismier where he attempted to address some of the doctrinal error in the book, after he had Tim Williams on his national radio show. The result of this thoughtful attempt to discuss error? Chuck’s WinePress book was immediately taken out of print and his account with WinePress closed. He was shamed, shunned, and excommunicated from the WinePress family of authors.
A friend sent me this scripture the other day…
“Doom to the shepherd-leaders who butcher and scatter my sheep!” God’s Decree. “So here is what I, God, Israel’s God, say to the shepherd-leaders who misled my people: ‘You’ve scattered my sheep. You’ve driven them off. You haven’t kept your eye on them. Well, let me tell you, I’m keeping my eye on you, keeping track of your criminal behavior. I’ll take over and gather what’s left of my sheep, gather them in from all the lands where I’ve driven them. I’ll bring them back where they belong, and they’ll recover and flourish. I’ll set shepherd-leaders over them who will take good care of them. They won’t live in fear or panic anymore. All the lost sheep rounded up!’ God’s Decree.” Jeremiah 23: 1-4 (The Message)
May it ever be so for all those who have been deceived by the Sound Doctrine lie.